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Gracie Family Tension Shows BJJ History

I just finished listening to the Renzo Gracie interview done by Caleb of FightWorksPodcast.com (#190) on November 29th, 2009.  For a white or blue belt it gave some very important history right from the horses mouth.  For example, I never knew about Rolls.  I didn’t know really about anyone but Heilo. 

Renzo talks about proving the superiority of the Gracie Jiu-Jitsu by fighting it out.  Its dojo wars!  He talks about street fighting with another school that was talking trash about the Gracies.  The Gracies of course "beat the crap out of everybody there" as Renzo put it.  This took place in Brazil.  I think it very unlikely that he would follow through with going after Relson when he says "So don’t force me one day to do a visit, because I will do it."  But he seems angry enough to do it.  Maybe it would end up in the ring but not a street fight.  Val Tudo was part of the rise of Gracie Jiu-Jitsu and the spirit of it seems very much alive in Renzo.  But I’m getting the cart before the horse.  What started all this was the interview with Relson Gracie (#189).  Relson made some claims about his school that inflamed Renzo.  I won’t ruin it for you and let you listen to them.  As I think on them I’ll have more to post.

3 Responses to “Gracie Family Tension Shows BJJ History”

  1. You need to watch the documentary “Choke.”

  2. I have. I don’t remember anything about Rolls in it. Was I not paying attention?

  3. The whole debate over who’s the “father” of Brazilian jiu-jitsu is never going to end. Carlos Gracie’s descendants will say its him, Helio Gracie’s descendants will say it was him. Some will say that Carlson Gracie was the innovator, and others that his younger brother Rolls was the innovator. And some would even argue that Mitsuyo Maeda, the Japanese judoka who taught Carlos Gracie is the real “father” of Brazilian jiu-jitsu. You can’t really credit one man for the creation of Brazilian jiu-jitsu. It took many decades and many individuals to influence and develop the art into what it is today.